Henry James Webb aka James Couch



I  first found my great uncle, Henry James Webb, on the British Census for 1881 on Find My Past.  His age was recorded as being one year and he was  and living with his family in Lambeth, London.  The website FreeBMD showed that his birth was registered in the September quarter of 1879. The General Register Office's records now make it possible to see the maiden name entered for a birth registered before 1911. This confirmed that the birth for Henry James Webb for 1879 showed his mother's maiden name to be Locke. I already knew that this was my great grandmother's previous surname.  The Parish Records for London on Ancestry produced a baptism for Henry at the church of St Mark's in Kennington on 14 September 1879.

The Webb family returned to their roots in Southampton in the 1880s.  This is evident from the Civil Records recording the births of two of Henry's younger sisters.  By 1890 they were in Portsea where his remaining younger brothers and sisters, including my grandmother, were born. Baptism and Census records show that the family lived at various addresses in the centre of Portsmouth. It was common at the time for families to be constantly moving from one address to another.

Henry is recorded as being 11 years old on the 1891 Census.  He is described as a scholar.  The family is living at Waterloo Place in the centre of Portsmouth.  Both the websites, Find My Past and Ancestry, show Henry to be 21 years old on the 1901 Census and employed as a carter for a builder.  Along with his family he is now living at 18 Common Street, Portsea.  This being Henry's parents along with five of his brothers and sisters. The Parish Records for St Mary's Church, Portsea can be found on Find My Past.  From the Baptism Records for Henry's brothers and sisters it is possible to establish that the Webbs moved to 18 Common Street between May 1898 and April 1901. They left this address between November 1901 and August 1904. The trail for Henry goes cold after the 1901 Census.  He does not appear on the 1911 Census.  Changing his age along with permutations of his name and its spelling does not produce a result on any website.  This included checking to see if Henry was using the name James so as not to confuse him with his father. I had seen a record for 1911 attached to a Public Member Tree on Ancestry for my family. But was not fully convinced that the man shown in London was Henry. 

It is not uncommon for people to be missing from the census for a variety of reasons.  So, does Henry appear on any other records?  The most obvious thing to do would be to search for a marriage record.  The name Henry Webb was and still is a very common name.  Searches on Ancestry, Find My Past and FreeBMD fail to produce an obvious candidate.  Following this thread would mean purchasing a large number of Marriage Certificates to check the personal details.  Although such certificates are vital when tracing an ancestor it is more economical to narrow down the target group beforehand.  The same applied when checking for a death record around the same time.  The General Register Office's index for deaths now shows the age of someone who died before 1911.  Still no record shows  that can obviously be connected with Henry. When conducting these searches I did not confine myself to the geographical area around Portsmouth.  I also looked at other areas Henry's family had connections to namely London and Southampton.

Still, no breakthrough.  Never mind there are still other options.  Henry would have been 35 years old when the First World War broke out in 1914.  His brother and his brother-in-law died within a few days of each other at different locations on the Western Front.  It is possible that he enlisted as well.  Here again the fact that he had a common name produces a problem.  Both Ancestry and Find My Past have records for service personnel of this period.  These include Medal Cards along with Service and Regimental Papers.  Unfortunately these records are not complete as many were destroyed during enemy bombing in the Second World War.  Looking through the records that remain does not produce an obvious link to Henry.  The Imperial War Museum's website Lives of the First World War is dedicated to preserving the memory of those people who served between 1914 and 1918.  Here again a search did not produce any great breakthrough. Looking through the website of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission also failed to produce a positive result.

Then I heard a breakthrough.  Having signed up for emails from Find My Past giving details of the new records released every Friday I started receiving new information about Portsmouth.  These included Portsmouth Military Tribunals 1916-1918 which were created when conscription was introduced in 1916.  This raised the possibility of checking if Henry Webb was exempt form military service for some reason. Entering his details on the webpage produced six results. These all related to Henry James Webb of 11 Fratton Grove whose year of birth was given as 1875 or 1876. Which put this man in Group 46 of the Derby Scheme. Group 46 would be the last group to be mobilised. On the two 1916  records he is married on the 1918 documents he is single. On the final document dated August 1918 he has become a special constable. This voluntary post could help to gain exemption from military service. He is shown as a builder's head carter. His exemption was requested by his employer, James Crockerell, contractor, of Victoria Road North, Southsea. A search of the Newspaper Archives at Find my Past  show that James Crockerell was a prominent businessman in Portsmouth at that time.  He served on the Munitions Tribunal.  The records for Henry James Webb looked promising.  They showed the correct name and the same occupation as the 1911 Census. An  Old Ordnance Survey Map of Portsmouth in 1896 confirms that Fratton Grove was  close to Common Street. The problem seemed to be that this man was born a few years before my great uncle.  There was also the fact that initially he was shown as a married and then became single.  All of this required further investigation.

Looking at the 1939 Register on Find My Past for Portsmouth I found a Henry J Webb born on 10 July 1879.  He was single and worked as a labourer at a timber saw mill.  By coincidence some of the Webb family's ancestors had been timber dealers in the New Forest.  Also living at 2 Cross Street with Henry was Hilda E Couch.  Her birth date being given as 17 June 1914.  She was single and employed as a paper bag maker.  So, what was the connection between Henry and Hilda?  They could be related or one could be the householder and the other a lodger. When researching someone it can be useful to look at people they are associated with.  Therefore I decided to take a look at Hilda.

As Hilda had been born in 1914 her name would not appear on any census.  Knowing her exact date of birth should make it easy to search for her on the civil records.  Being born after 1911 means that her mother's maiden name (if there was one)  would be shown on any index.  A search for 1914 produced a record for Hilda E Couch born in the September quarter in Portsmouth.  Her mother's maiden name being Lucas.  This extra piece of information would make it possible to search for Hilda's parents and siblings. Hilda could be the first child in the family or she could be the youngest in a very large family.  Therefore it would be necessary to search a wide date range. The search pages on Find My Past and FreeBMD enabled me to enter Surname Couch, Spouse's surname Lucas, Date 1905 + or - 10 years, Location Portsmouth.  Both databases produced the same result. Edgar Ernest Couch married Ada Maria Lucas in the second quarter of 1895 on Portsea Island. Now it would be possible to use the General Register Office's Index to look for any other children Edgar and Ada may have had.  By entering the Surname, the Mother's Maiden name and a date range I was able to find the births of Hilda's siblings. Ada Lilian 1895, Robert Ernest 1897, Rosina Kate 1899, James 1902, Henry James 1907 and Jessie Vera 1912. They were all born in Portsmouth.  Therefore it should be easy to trace them on the census. 

Unfortunately this was not to be the case.  A search for Edgar Couch in Portsmouth on the 1901 Census  failed to produce a result.  Although it did highlight a Edgar E Couch living in Torquay.

Edgar E Couch Head 24 Married General Carter born Torquay
Elsie A Couch   Wife  19  Married                            born Portsmouth
Amy L Couch Daughter One month                        born Torquay

Various searches on Find My Past  for Ada Maria Couch along with Ada Lilian, Robert and Rosina were unsuccessful. I tried  Free records on FamilySearch without success.  I did find  an entry on Ancestry but as I did not have a subscription I was not able to access it. Then I decided to try the 1911 Census on Find My Past starting with Ada (Maria). This did  produce a result in Portsmouth. Although it raised many more questions. A brief summary is given below.

1911    4 Harcourt Terrace, Somer Road North

James Henry Couch  Head  35  Married   Builders Contractor Carter   Born London
Ada Maria Couch      Wife   34 Married                                                       Born Portsmouth 
      married 16 years   7 children born alive   5 living    2 died

Ada Lilian Couch        Daughter   15     Corset maker                     Born Portsmouth
Rosina Kate Couch          "             12                                                    "           "
Gladys Victoria Couch    "               8                                                     "          "
James Henry Couch      Son            4                                                      "          "
Elsie May Couch          Daughter    2                                                      "          "

The names and ages of some of the children matched.  Although my previous search had not produced Gladys or Elsie. Ada Maria's name matched as did the number of years she had been married.  James Henry Couch was the same age as Henry James Webb and also listed London as his birthplace.  His occupation again matched Henry's and the name was certainly interesting!

I decided to do the same as I had for Hilda and try and obtain some background information about Ada Maria.  By the same process using the GRO Index and Find My Past I manage to establish that Ada Maria Lucas was born in Portsea in the June quarter of 1874. The maiden name of her mother being Short. The record on the 1911 Census would put Ada's year of birth as 1877.  I carried on and traced a marriage for Robert Lucas and Jane Short in Alverstoke in the June quarter of 1864. 

Pressing ahead after some searching in the 1901 Census I located the following family.

1901 11 Common Street, Portsea

Robert Lucas    Head         70    Widower     Casual  Labourer   born Yeovil, Somerset
Robert Lucas    Son            35    Single           Rivetter, Boiler     born Portsmouth
Sidney Lucas     Son              9                                                         born Portsmouth
*Ada Couch      Daughter  25   Married                                        born Portsmouth
*Ada  Couch     Boarder       5                                                         born Portsmouth
*Rosina Couch   Boarder     1                                                         born Portsmouth
Florence Ward Boarder     28  Single          Stayworker              born Portsmouth

On each of these entries * on Find My Past and FamilySearch  Couch has been transcribed as Conch.  All of the information above has been copied from the original rather than the transcription.  A search for Couch would not work as the family were listed under Conch on both Find My Past and FamilySearch .

So, I had managed to find Ada Maria with two of the children.  She was living with her father at 11 Common Street and Henry James Webb was with his parents at 18 Common Street.  I had a connection both Ada Couch and Henry James Webb were living in the same street.

Then I decided to look in the local newspapers to see if any of the Lucas, Couch or Webb families featured.  People can be mentioned for all sorts of reasons and it is always worth a punt.  Returning to the newspaper archives at Find My Past I started with Edgar Ernest Couch.  Where I immediately found two articles. Perhaps things were going to get a little easier!

An entry in the Portsmouth News for Friday 28th April 1911 referred to Ernest Couch asking for a dissolution of his marriage to Ada Couch. The petition named James Webb as the respondent. Earlier articles from 4th and 5th July 1899 were posted by Edgar stating that he would no longer be responsible for any debts incurred by his wife. In 1899 Ada's address is 10 Common Street. So, now I needed to establish if there were any surviving records relating to the divorce.

I managed to find details of the divorce on Ancestry. Unfortunately I did not have a subscription! Fortunately a lady at a family history group I attend allowed me to use her subscription. This revealed nineteen pages of material about Edgar, Ada and Henry James Webb.

It seems Edgar and Ada were married at Portsmouth Registry Office on 8th April 1895. Their daughter Ada Lilian being born on 29 September 1895. A son Robert Ernest was born in 1879. Robert died and was buried at St Mary's Church on 14 August 1898. The family home at this time was 18 Common Street. Sometime in 1898 Ada Couch left her husband . At an unspecified time she started living with Henry James Webb. Ada and James lived at various addresses in Portsmouth and by 1911 had five children. Edgar asked for a divorce on the grounds of Ada's adultery. On 2nd May 1911 Edgar was granted a Decree Nisi. This was not the end of the story. Ada and Henry did not defend the original petition. Although in December 1911 the divorce was rescinded. Evidence was provided showing that Edgar had himself had two relationships each resulting in the birth of a daughter. Therefore as Edgar had committed adultery himself he was not entitled to a divorce. Hence he and Ada remained married until her death in 1936.

It seems that Henry James Webb adopted the name Couch for records that related to his children. He used the name Webb for records that only related to him, for example, the War Tribunals. When registering the births of their children Henry and Ada used the family name Couch. On these registers Ada sometimes gave her maiden name as Lucas and on others as Webb. The same occurred when their children were baptised.

Children of Ada Couch nee Lucas and her husband Edgar Couch
   1. Ada Lilian Couch
        Born 29/9/1895. Maiden name of mother Lucas.
        Baptised 17/10/1902. St Mary's, Portsea. Parents James and Ada Couch. Father's occupation carter.
        Address 23 Fratton Grove.
        Married William Henry Hoile 25/12/1915. St Mary's. Father Edgar Couch. Address 11 Fratton Grove.
   2. Robert Ernest Couch
       Born 1897. Maiden name of mother Lucas.
       Died Sept qtr 1897. Buried 4/8/1898 St Mary's.


Children of Ada Couch and Henry James Webb
  1. Rosina Kate Couch
      Born 18/6/1899. Maiden name of mother Lucas.
      Baptised 17/10/1899. St Mary's ,Portsea. Parents James and Ada Couch. Father's occupation carter.
      Address 23 Fratton Grove.
  2. James Couch
      Born 1902. Mother's maiden name Lucas. Died June qtr 1902.
  3. Gladys  Victoria Webb Couch
      Born 27/5/1903. Maiden name of mother Webb.
      Baptised 29/9/1904. St Mary's, Portsea. Parents Edgar and Ada. Father's occupation carman.
      Address 19 Fratton Grove.
  4. Henry James Couch aka Henry James Couch
      Born 1/12/1907. Maiden name of mother Lucas.
      Baptised 9/6/1909. St Mary's, Portsea. Parents James Henry and Ada Maria. Father's occupation                 labourer.      
  5. Elsie May Couch
       Born 22/96/1909. Mother's maiden name Webb.
  6. Jessie Vera Couch
      Born 6/5/1912. Mother's maiden name Lucas.
  7. Hilda Couch
      Born 17/6/1914. Maiden name of mother Lucas.


Children of Edgar Couch and Elsie Amy Pyle
  1. Amy Couch
      Born 28/2/1901 Devon. Mother's maiden name Pyle.

Children of Edgar Couch and Blanch Barham
   1. Ivy Blanch Couch
       Born 19/11/1906 London. Mother's maiden name Barham.

Edgar Couch had a further relationship with a lady who described herself as Maude Elizabeth Couch. Edgar and Maude appear as a couple on the Electoral Registers for London in 1920. They are described as husband and wife in the newspaper articles detailing their bankruptcy in Torquay in the later 1920s.

Ada died in Portsmouth in 1936. On the records she is recorded with the name Ada Couch.  Edgar died in London in 1939. Henry Webb died in Portsmouth in 1961. There is not any record of him marrying after Ada's death.

So, the reason I had serious problems finding Henry James Webb was that he often used the surname Couch in order to have the same name as his children. Problem solved! Eventually!


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